22 February 2019
Analysis - Amanda De Warren - Pet Psychic
We have been talking about Amanda De Warren for a while over on the BadPsychics Forum and when one of our forum members transcribed a few pet readings by Amanda De Warren from an Aussie radio show, I couldn't help but take a look, and I decided to go "old school" and analyse it for everyone, so you can see exactly how she does what she claims.
Firstly you can listen to the show at this link, no idea how long it will stay up, but always good to listen to the recording, but perhaps listen to it after you have read my analysis so that you have more of an idea what to look out for.
As with any psychic, the methods are often the same regardless of if you are giving a reading to a human, or an animal. The truth is it is always the human who is being read, because no one can read the mind of an animal.
So let's start off with the readings. I will interject my comment in BOLD lettering.
The show was published on February 20, 2019.
Transcript by Forum member john66
The show starts off with some waffle by the host and an introduction to Amanda.
First interview (Host)
Ash: Amanda, I'm gonna take the opportunity to talk to you about my little lady. Is that alright?
Amanda: Yes, with attitude. Yes.
To start off I believe the Ash talking is one of the co-hosts, Ash London. And you would also assume that any time a psychic goes on a show, they would most likely do a bit of research on who is interviewing them. And a quick check of Ash London's social media and there are plenty of photos of her dog, and conversations about the dog, so incredibly easy to do some prior research if needed. But for the sake of this article, I will assume that Amanda did no prior research and truly came in "cold". However unlikely that may be, we have to give the benefit of the doubt.
Ash: Her name is Honey and she is a rescue greyhound and she's being moving around a lot lately because we've been..
Amanda: [interrupts] I was gonna say to you it feels like she's been shifting a lot, from house to house to house and it feels like, but you're just about stopping where you are at this point, aren't you?
Straight away Amanda realises that she is being given information and she needs to "claim it" for herself as the psychic, so that it can be repeated back. And this is exactly what happens here. Ash tells the Amanda about the dog, Amanda repeats the info back with a bit more info, and makes it sound like she already knew. You will notice if you listen to the readings how often Amanda interrupts people. It is a trick used by psychics to convince the client that they know the info. After the reading the client will convince themselves that the psychic knew stuff, when the truth is they gave away all of the information.
Ash: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're settling in
Amanda: I feel like, um, and she's very cheerful, she's a very cheerful dog, it's like all she wants to do is make you happy and, um, she's very, has she got a little bit of a problem with one of her legs as well?
Ash revealed that the dog was a rescue dog, a rescue dog by its very nature has been rescued from a situation that was not pleasant, so a dog being grateful for being treated better than it was previously is really quite likely. Now notice how Amanda asks a QUESTION here, remember a real psychic would never need to ask a question. She asks Ash if the dog has a problem with one of her legs.
Ash: She does. She has arthritis in her back leg.
Amanda: Yeah, because I felt pain in her back legs, because she's showing me a lot of pain in her back legs and she's saying, "I'm struggling to walk at times."
So Ash confirms there is a problem with the back leg, and gives away more information that the dog has arthritis. So straight away Amanda has more info given to her that she can now repeat.
The original question was if the dog had "a little bit of a problem with one of her legs". From a little bit of a problem, Amanda now jumps to "a lot of pain" and "struggling to walk"
All of this info is gained from Ash using the word arthritis.
Many rescue dogs have issues with limbs which is often why they are given up in the first place, but still Amanda asked about a leg problem, how could she possibly come to the decision to ask that? Well go back a bit and look at what Ash originally said "she is a rescue greyhound".
This is very important. Given that Amanda is making a living from this job, she will know about animals, and rarely if ever do you see 100% healthy greyhounds given up. They are only ever given up if they are unable to run, since that is what they are bred for. And what is the main reason a greyhound cant run? Yep it will be a leg issue. And that is exactly what Amanda ASKED Ash, all of the information that Amanda has said so far comes from what Ash has told her. Using common sense and educated guesswork, as well as just repeating back what she has been told by the client.
Grant: Ash, are you ok, darl?
Amanda: Um, it comes and goes. She's not really that old though, is she? What is she, about 4 or 5?
Already Ash is crying. Literally the psychic has told her nothing, but Ash has been hooked, and Amanda has won.
Grant: Ash is tearing up.
Ash: No, she's a bit older. She's 7.
The first true attempt at something specific in the reading, that being the age of the dog, and Amanda is wrong.
The average age a greyhound will live to is roughly 10.
And the average age a Greyhound stops racing is 3-5.
So Amanda makes takes a chance and guesses 4 or 5, which would be the most likely age. But she is off by a few years. The equivalent of being wrong by about 20-30% of the dogs age.
Amanda: Sorry, I make everyone cry, it's my job.
Ash: Cause I worry about her back legs, because we have stairs and when she goes up the stairs I worry.
Amanda: Of course, yeah, yeah, and that's what she's talking about. She's talking about her back legs and she's saying, "it's ok, I'm having good days and bad days, but I know you love me."
Again Amanda is just taking what Ash tells her and repeats it back but with more detail and as if she is getting it from the dog.
Grant: Aw, that's..
Amanda: But I know she struggles with the back legs. Look, she's fine, um, I do a lot of healing on animals, but she really needed her mum to know about the back legs, because that's the first thing I picked up on. It's "I love you so much, mummy, I know you're doing everything." Are you doing some, like, alternative medicine on her at the moment, like healing or..?
Ash: I give her massages, and I look up on the Internet how to do dog massages.
Amanda: Yes, I was just about to say healing.. yes, because she's talking about healing thing you're doing, the alternative, it feels like massage or something. She said, "Aw, that's just,
that's awesome. I love it."
Amanda asks if Ash is doing any alternative medicine or healing on the dog.
Well the dog has arthritis, and Ash is blubbing here, so clearly Ash is a huge believer in this kind of nonsense, plus massage and such things are pretty obvious.
Ash tells Amanda she does massage the dog, and then Amanda repeats it back as if it is knowledge she has gotten from the dog.
Ash: Aw, I hope she likes it, cause greyhounds don't give a lot of emotion.
Amanda: She does.
Ash: So when I do it, she just stares at me, like does she even like the dog massage that I'm learning how to do off YouTube?
Amanda: You're actually, you're actually doing really well with that.
Ash: Thank you, Amanda.
So Ash pretty much admits here that the dog doesn't care for the massages, but Amanda purely to make Ash feel better, says that the dog likes it. Basically telling the client what they want to hear, to make them feel better about themselves and psychologically it makes you feel closer to the psychic.
Amanda: I'm gonna send her some healing as well, so, but she's absolutely gorgeous. Please go and give her a big hug.
Ash: I will, thank you.
Amanda: She has, she has not, she's not one of these dogs that wants to race.
Ash: No, at all, she's a lazy lady.
Well since she is a good 3-4 years past the retirement age for a greyhound, and has a bad leg, and was a rescue, it would be highly unlikely that she would want to race.
Amanda: She had no intention, it's like you say, what, what do you want to me to do.. [not sure about next words]
So that is the first reading done, and as with all psychics there is a clear pattern emerging.
Repeat back to the client what they have already told you, but with more detail to make it sound like you know.
Make educated guesses, and use common knowledge and pass it off as if divined psychically.
Lets see if this tactic carries on to the next reading, I suspect it will.
Second interview (Cara)
Amanda: How can I help you and your baby?
Cara: So I have two, but I'm more curious about one. So his name's Nuts (?) and he's very handsome, ah, but we have a bit of a behavioural issue where, um, he cries a lot..
Amanda: Does he get a little bit aggressive? I feel like he has an underlying fear. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I felt like there is an underlying fear and it seems to come out as like, he's not showing aggression, but I feel like, yes, because there's a fearfulness around him as well. Has he missed another dog? I feel like there's another dog that's passed over, is that right?
Cara: No, he's a cat, but, um.. he
How crap of a pet psychic do you have to be to not even know what kind of animal you are communicating with. This is hilariously bad. To be fair, from the way Cara was speaking I did assume it was a dog too, the name, the crying, do make you picture a dog. Let's see how Amanda talks her way out of this.
Amanda: Aw, a cat, I'm sorry, who's the dog that keeps coming through? A dog passed over?
Cara: I've never had a dog, but he may have had a dog previously. He's a rescue.
Realising she messed up huge, Amanda tries to go down the whole ghost dog routine
Amanda: Ok, that's what he's trying to show me.
Cara: I think he was surrendered.
So to understand, a ghost dog, is connecting to Amanda, to talk about the cat who the woman is calling in about. Well its a bit of a reach, but Amanda has managed to turn an incredible balls up into something she can use in the reading.
Amanda: Yes, yes, because I feel a dog and a dog keeps coming through and connecting to this cat. I'm sorry, I'm trying to be really quick here. Um, but the cat, has he got an.. he's very fearful at times, but the dog was what he was connected to for a long time and that's what he's missing. He's telling me about the dog. He's been.. he's gone to several different homes has he, so far, the cat?
Cara: Yep, yep.
Cats are notorious travellers, so to suggest that a cat has gone to several different homes, is very different to saying a dog has, with a dog you would assume that meant different owners, with a cat however the meaning is that the cat has gone to different houses.
Amanda: Yes, because he said, "many, many homes but I.."
Cara: He's been with me for a few years.
Amanda: Yes, but he had, um, anoth- a dog that he was very connected to that that dog is passed over and it's trying to connect to him. So he wakes up in the middle of the night and he's all noisy and, uh, kind of cries out does he?
Cara: Yes, people think I have a crying baby, but it's not a baby, it's my cat.
Amanda is desperate to connect this cat's behavioural issues to this imaginary dead dog. After making such a big mistake early on, Amanda is cleverly using it to explain the reason why the cat is crying so much.
Amanda: Yeah, that's what he's showing me, the crying out, the crying out, it's the dog that's passed over that comes to him and he senses that dog at night and they were very, very close.
Host: I'm sorry to cut in, I know it's very technical, I know there's a lot going on, but we've got so many calls coming through, it's so busy.
Amanda: I'm so sorry, but anyway, the dog is there.
Host: Do we have a little tip for Cara that will.. so a little tip for Cara, something she can do perhaps, Amanda?
Amanda: I tried to remove the dog, so that Cara and this has happened many times, so your cat can actually get some peace.
Host: Great stuff. Alright, look, as I say so many trying to get through.
And perhaps realising how badly this reading is going, and how Amanda is not really saying anything of worth, the other host quickly moves her on to the next person on the phone. And poor Nuts the cat is still left without an answer.
Third interview (Natalie)
Natalia: Hi, how are you going?
Amanda: Good, darling. How can I help you?
Natalie: I'm ringing up about my beloved dog Brutus, sorry I'm gonna cry. Um, yeah, he passed away about 18 months ago. We had him for almost 14 years..
So straight away, once again the client is giving all the information away. The dog is dead not alive, his age, how long ago it happened. Even the name of dog.
Amanda: You had to put him, you had to put him to sleep, did you?
Natalie: No, we didn't have to put him to sleep. He actually passed away in my son's arms.
Straight away a major fail by Amanda. It is the smart guess to make, an old dog dies, most likely had various illnesses, take it to the vet, vet puts the dog out of its misery, but NO, Amanda gets it 100% wrong. The dog died in her sons arms.
Amanda: I feel like it was quick. It felt really, really quick with him. Yes, because I feel you weren't expecting this, this was very sudden and you weren't expecting this.
Natalie: Yep. Not at all.
Well the fact the woman is clearly still grieving for a dog that died 18 months ago, would suggest that it was sudden, and that it wasn't expected, regardless of the age of the dog.
Amanda: And he said he went downhill really fast. He said he didn't suffer.
Amanda: I just felt like his whole body shut down. Was it like an impact or something or come to something like an umph gone?
Natalie: He literally just, he just coughed and he was gone.
So with the info she has got, Amanda now takes a guess that since it was unexpected, and since the dog died in the ladies son's arms, it was most likely run over, this is a common sense guess. But wow again she is 100% wrong.
Amanda: Yes. That's what he's showing to me. I'm feeling, uh, gone. That's what he's showing me.
Natalie: Yeah, that was exactly it.
No, that is not exactly it. This is the opposite of exactly it. Amanda guessed he was run over, but the woman at no point confirms that, she literally says that he just coughed and then died. I wonder if he was a bulldog of some sort, the name Brutus makes me think of such a dog, and they are famous for having breathing issues.
Amanda: And he was perfectly ok beforehand.
Amanda: Yeah, he was, he wasn't that old though, but he said to tell you I didn't pass, they think, uh, I didn't suffer. Did they think it was some kind of stroke or a heart attack or something?
Natalie: Yes, yeah.
So clearly forgetting that the woman said she had the dog 14 years, Amanda now says the dog wasn't that old. The dog WAS old. Like really old. Most dogs do not get anywhere near to 14 years of age.
Amanda: Yes, because I'm picking up on stroke or heart attack.
Now, since the dog was NOT run over like Amanda guessed, she now guesses either heart attack or stroke, she ASKS the woman this QUESTION first, and then repeats back to her after getting the answer.
Amanda: It was that quick, he didn't suffer.
Amanda: You know what, darling? They go on loving us, even 70, 80 years down the track. I've done communications with people who have lost animals 70 years ago and they still come through. They love us unconditionally, even though they are physically not here. He did not suffer.
Another terrible reading. Bad guesswork. Nothing even remotely psychic here.
Fourth interview (Fiona)
Fiona: Yeah, hi, I've had my rescue dog Harrison for 10 years, we're best buds, as close that you can be. I've just brought a second dog into the home and he's just not quite himself. I
wanna make sure he's ok with that, he's alright with me bringing a second, young pup into the home.
Amanda: He, uh, seems to be ok, but I think the pup's energy is not on the same level of his. These two dogs seem to be completely different, conflicting personalities, uh..
Fiona: I said, "they certainly are."
So an old dog, who is older than 10, as it was a rescue dog and she has had him for 10 years, so he could be 10, 11, 12 etc. Is it any surprise that an older dog may not be too pleased with a young puppy coming in, with all its energy and excitement, and the old dog just wants to sleep and chill. All pretty obvious and anyone could guess this.
Amanda: Yes, because I'm feeling like your dog is saying, "well, you know, um, you brought this dog into the house, but he's not on the same level as me, and we don't really connect that well.."
Ash: So what can she do?
Amanda: Well, all I can do is help the, help both dogs get to the same level and that's what I actually do, because the, the older dog, it's not so much about the jealousy thing, it's just about the whole, uh, energy level of the new dog. There's a lot of negativity around the old dog and the, uh, rescue dog before is trying to fathom out what this dog is about.
Ash: Great. It's like housemates, when you find a housemate off the Internet and you move in and you don't like each other:
That's it. An old dog is a bit pissed off with a new young dog.
I don't know what to say here.
Fifth interview (Janet)
Janet: Hi guys, um, yeah, we bought the horse at Christmas time for my daughter, um, who's been having riding lessons for about 2 years now, um, but she's thrown my daughter off a couple of times.
Amanda: I was gonna say, it just kind of felt, I went mmm when you were talking and I was thinking, "ok, this horse has, um, it's like I'm the boss, always has been the boss, you're not the boss of me, I'll tell you when I've had enough." Um, unfortunately, this horse goes from really, really sweet and then all of a sudden, "I'm gonna throw you off" within like, uh, seconds, um and your daughter's energy is not strong enough for this horse, and I don't mean that as an insulting way, but this horse I don't think is really gonna change much at all. It has a lot of emotional problems and social problems with humans, and you find that a lot with animals. I think retraining this horse would do a lot of good.
Again the common tactic we have seen throughout these readings, the client says something, and Amanda repeats back but just adds more detail to make it sound like she is getting the info psychically.
Ash: Is that helpful, Janet?
Janet: Yeah, it is actually, because we have sort of been checking things off, so you know we had her feet done, we were having a dentist come out to see her..
Amanda: It's not um, it's not a physical problem. It's an emotional problem with her, and it's almost like bipolar. Like she's good one minute and then the minute it's like, bang, gone.
And with that the reading ends.
Again with this reading, the client tells the psychic, the psychic repeats back.
Throughout these readings I hope you see the same tricks, psychics do this all the time regardless if it is a human or an animal being read.
Really basic stuff from Amanda De Warren.
She is not psychic, she is not communicating with the dead.
By Jon Donnis
Posted by JD at 15:11
Labels: Amanda De Warren
I enjoyed reading this!
wow, truly awful.
That's hilarious. And I just realised that, as my dog and I completely understand each other and are very bonded as mates, we could always go out and pretend to be a psychic double act! 😄
What's that Commodore? You'd like another treat?
Amanda also does every other type of reading imaginable. I was sucked in by her for a number of years and spoke with her a number of times. Bit of a painful story for you: I was actively trying to get pregnant and alas I finally was. Unfortunately the embryo did not grow correctly and there were concerns that it wouldn't be a viable pregnancy. On the morning of the ultrasound (that would tell me if this would be an ongoing pregnancy or not), I had an urgent reading with Amanda (she is booked out months in advance but made room for me, I guess she felt sorry for me). Amanda confirmed in the reading that the baby was healthy, that the pregnancy would go smoothly and that I would soon be a mum. I asked Amanda the gender but she said she couldn't tell me. Fast forward to the ultrasound and the baby had stopped growing and had no heart beat, I had lost the baby. I was heartbroken of course. A few days later I emailed Amanda to let her know the outcome (as she asked to be kept in the loop). I received an immediate reply from her assistant offering me a refund. Stupidly, in my emotional state I asked for a free reading instead. I got this, but it was a very short reading and Amanda seemed put out. She was very vague and Bassicly told me I would have children one day (which is true, I now have a daughter, but not a hard guess to make). This all happened a few years ago but I am still angry about it. I feel that to prey on someone going through something like that was extremely cruel. I want to believe in psychics and I'm still to this day tempted to book in with Amanda again just in case she is real. Even though logically I know she is not.
I am so sorry to hear about your experience. This is what psychics do, they tell people what they think they want to hear, and then when things go wrong as in your case instead of admitting it is fake they will do what they can to get themselves out of the hole they dug themselves.
Clearly you were very vulnerable and she took advantage.
Amanda De Warren is 100% fake, please never pay her money again, and in fact NEVER EVER pay any psychic money again.
If you ever feel tempted send me a message first and give me the chance to talk you out of it.
All psychics are fake. They fail 100% of the time when the chance to cheat is removed, no exceptions. Not one single psychic in history has ever proven their claims in a controlled credible environment.
If you join the forum (link top of the page) feel free to talk about your experiences there, a few of us have been through what you have and know the feelings of vulnerability.
Sorry, but I don’t believe this at all. Amanda has helped me many times. I get what you’re saying, but in my first reading, I counted 22 things she told me, that she couldn’t possibly have known, unless she lived in my house. I was skeptical too. In every reading since, she has always told me things she couldn’t have known, when I wasn’t forthcoming with the information. So, I will continue to call on her when I need her, and I don’t believe she is a fake at all in my opinion.
Lindaw, you give the game away straight away, you say she has helped you many times, in other words you are a regular customer of hers. She is making money from you.
I 100% guarentee you that if you showed me the readings I could show you how she does it.
I am an expert in how these fakes trick people, the trick is to convince people they have told them things they have no way of knowing, this is the trick.
You have been fooled, conned, and you keep going back, you are addicted, literally addicted to this, and this is why psychics cause so much damage.
Be honest, how much have you given to her over the years?
And if you have any recordings of the readings, send them to me, and I will show you step by step how she does it.
Remember, "in your opinion" she is legit.
I am an expert, and not only is it my opinion that she is a fake, it is the opinion of pretty much all of science.
So weigh up the two opinions. One would mean you were fooled, something that we KNOW is possible, and happens all the time by psychics who use various tricks.
The entirety of science needs to be rewritten, everything we know about the Universe is wrong, the worlds greatest minds in the last 200 years are ALL wrong.
Just consider that, now ask yourself what is more likely?
Education will help you see the truth if you refuse to listen to me, and all of the worlds most intelligent scientific minds.
Not to mention you say you dont believe this.
I literally step by step explained how she was doing it.
You are choosing to ignore the facts because IN YOUR OPINION you think you know better.
That is the definition of a closed mind.
All I ask is that you open it just a little, and ask yourself, "what if I am wrong, and the entire world of science is right"
Thats it. Just open it a tad.
I too have had readings from Amanda and she has told me things that only I should know, Jon Donnis you sounds like a very sad and jaded person my friend, even if Amanda de warren isn’t 100 % right she is making a lot of people happy and helping them to cope with grief.
So move on buddy and go enjoy your little life a bit more and stop putting a downer on others.
Hi Amanda. You really should use a VPN when pretending to be your own clients. Whoops. Lol
Opps, I think Amanda got triggered!
I will leave your horrible abuse of me for everyone to see what a nasty piece of work you are.
However I wont be approving any more nasty comments
Just had to approve this delightful message, showing exactly what Amanda Warren and her followers are like.
Although maybe next time you might want to use a VPN. You wouldn't want me to report you to your ISP for abuse would you?
Judging by the extremely similar spelling & grammatical errors & writing styles of the two I would hazard a guess that 'believer' who wrote abusive messages to you above is the same 'Dave Thornbury' who abused you on Facebook!
I enjoyed this a lot. It is very useful and absolutely true. In India we have the same frauds who make a lot of money preying on people's grief and loss.
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